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(。。。。无责任翻译,不想细查啥错误,但有指出错误的且重要到影响作者观点的话,我改。特别重要的是也许你看到滴观点既不是作者的观点,更不可能是我的观点,而是我错误翻译滴缘故哦XD,好吧,我作鬼也想不到我的第一篇译作竟会是这方面的囧rz)


文中某些括号是作意思上的补充。总之,戴上你的安全头盔吧:D
有些词儿我觉得有必要留心下,方便用作关键词来google,所以没译在其中,而是放到这里:
eidetic image 心象
eidetic imagery 心象记忆
photographic memory 照相记忆(我理解是心象记忆中的一种,心象记忆不仅仅是对图象的记忆,包括对声音,听觉,嗅觉等的记忆)
visual imagery 视觉印象
afterimages 残留影象




Is there such a thing as a photographic memory? And if so, can it be learned?

Inthe scientific literature, the term eidetic imagery comes closest towhat is popularly called photographic memory. The most common way toidentify eidetikers (as people with eidetic imagery are often called)is by the Picture Elicitation Method. In it, an unfamiliar picture isplaced on an easel and a person carefully scans the entire scene. After30 seconds have elapsed, the picture is removed from view, and theperson is asked to continue to look at the easel and to report anythingthat they can observe. People possessing eidetic imagery willconfidently claim to still "see" the picture. In addition, they canscan it and examine different parts of it just as if the picture werestill physically present. Consequently, one of the hallmarks of eideticimagery is that eidetikers use the present tense when answeringquestions about the missing picture, and they can report inextraordinary detail what it contained.
在科学文献中,术语“eideticimagery”的含义跟俗称的“photographicmemory”很接近。确认(一个人是不是)“eidetiker(对那些有eideticimagery能力的人的称呼)”最通常的方法叫“Picture ElicitationMethod”。通过这种方法,在画架上放置一幅陌生的图画,让一人仔细地扫视整幅画。30秒后,将图移出那人视线,然后让那人接着边看那画架边描述任何他们(刚在那幅图里)能观察到的细节。拥有“eideticimagery”能力的人将自信满满地声称仍然可以“看见”那幅图。此外,他们可以扫视它而后细查那图上不同的部分,就好像那幅图实际上还在面前一样。因此,“eideticimagery”的一个典型的特点是,当eidetiker们在现场被问及与那幅消失图画有关的问题时,他们可以超量回答出那图所包含的细节。


Eideticimages differ from other forms of visual imagery in several importantways. First, an eidetic image is not simply a long afterimage, sinceafterimages move around when you move your eyes and are usually adifferent color than the original image. (For example, a flash cameracan produce afterimages: the flash is bright white, but the afterimageis a black dot, and the dot moves around every time you move youreyes.) In contrast, a true eidetic image doesn‘t move as you move youreyes, and it is in the same color as the original picture. Second, acommon visual image that we can all create from memory (such as animage of a bedroom) does not have the characteristics of most eideticimages, which almost always fade away involuntarily and part by part.Also, it is not possible to control which parts of an eidetic imagefade and which remain visible. Unlike common visual images created frommemory, most eidetic images last between about half a minute to severalminutes only, and it is possible to voluntarily destroy an eideticimage forever by the simple act of blinking intentionally. Furthermore,once gone from view, rarely can an eidetic image ever be retrieved.
“eideticimage”在几个重要方面上不同于“visual imagery”。第一、一个“eidetic image”并非是个“longafterimage”那样简单,因为“afterimage”会在你移动自己的眼球时移动,并且通常会是相较原象不同的颜色。(例如,一台闪光照相机能引起残像:那个闪光是亮白的,但残象会是个黑点,并且随着你移动自己的眼球,那个点会跟着移动。)与此相反,一个真实的“eideticimage”不会随着你的眼球移动而移动,而且它的颜色跟原象是一样的。第二、一个常见的大家都能从记忆中产生的“visualimagery”(如(心目中)一间卧室的印象)并不具有大多数“eideticimage”所具有的典型特征,它们几乎总是一个接一个地非我们所愿地逐渐消失。同样,并不可能控制一个“eideticimage”的某部份淡化和保持清晰可见。跟通常的由记忆产生的“visual image”不同,大多数“eideticimage”只能持续半分钟到几分钟之间的时间,并且,通过一个简单的有意眨眼动作,是有可能随意且永久地破坏一个“eideticimage”的。此外,一旦从“视野”里消失,“eidetic image”总是能够罕见地被恢复。


Youmight expect that an individual who claims to still see a picture afterit has been removed would be able to have a perfect memory of theoriginal picture. After all, a perfect memory is what is usuallyimplied by the commonly used phrase "photographic memory." As it turnsout, however, the accuracy of many eidetic images is far from perfect.In fact, besides often being sketchy on some details, it is not unusualfor eidetikers to alter visual details and even to invent some thatwere never in the original. This suggests that eidetic images arecertainly not photographic in nature but instead are reconstructed frommemory and can be influenced like other memories (both visual andnonvisual) by cognitive biases and expectations.
你可能料想,那些图画被移出视线之后,声明仍能看到它的人能对图象有完美的记忆力。毕竟,完美的记忆通常意味着“photographicmemory”。然而,事实证明,许多“eideticimage”的精确度远不够完美。事实上,除了常常对一些细节忽略外,更改视觉细节,甚至捏造些原象并不具有的细节,这些对eidetiker们来说并不少见。这暗示着“eideticimage”在本质上定然不是photographic,而是被从记忆中重建起来,并且跟其它的记忆(所有视觉与非视觉方面的)一样,受认知上的偏见和期待的影响。


The vast majority of the people who have beenidentified as possessing eidetic imagery are children. The prevalenceestimates of the ability among preadolescents range from about 2percent to 10 percent. And it is an equal-opportunityphenomenon--there‘s no gender difference in who is likely to be aneidetiker. Although it is certainly controversial, some researchersalso believe that eidetic imagery occurs more frequently in certainpopulations of the mentally retarded (specifically, in individualswhose retardation most likely stems from biological, rather thanenvironmental, causes) and also among geriatric populations. With a fewnotable exceptions, however, most research has shown that virtually noadults seem to possess the ability to form eidetic images.
绝大多数被鉴定为拥有“eideticimagery”的人是小孩。对青春期前的并具有这个能力的个体的概率估计是2%-10%。并且,这是个机会均等的现象--在那些很可能是eidetiker的人当中没有性别上的差异。纵使必然地会有争议性,一些研究者还是相信:“eideticimagery”更频繁地存在于某些智障(特别指,那些障碍多半由生物自身,而非环境导致的)群体之中,并且也存在于老年群体之中。然而,有一些明显的例外,大多数研究调查表明,事实上没有成年人看起来好像有能力去形成“eidetic image”。


Whyshould this be so? No one really knows, although part of the answer maybe related to a rather obscure fact about the development of suchimages. Research has shown that if a person verbalizes during the timehe or she is scanning the original picture, this interferes witheidetic image formation. This utterance could be something as seeminglyinnocuous as covertly saying "Saint Bernard" upon seeing a large dogduring the initial scanning process. So perhaps part of the reason whyit is so rare to find older eidetikers is that adults are much morelikely than children to try to both verbally and visually encode thepicture into memory. If this is true, then it means that adults aremore likely to disrupt the formation of eidetic images and are thusmuch less likely to be identified as having eidetic imagery, even ifthey really do possess the ability.
为何如此?尽管部分答案可能跟一个相当模糊的关于“eideticimage”开发的事实有关,但是并没有人真的知道。研究调查表明,如果一个人在浏览原始图象的过程中用语言来认知它,那么这将干扰“eideticimage”的形成。例如:在最初的浏览过程中,当看到一条巨型犬时,(你的左脑在)暗地里说“圣伯纳德犬”(于是,干扰了“eideticimage”的形成)。所以,关于为何寻得更年长的eidetiker们会是如此罕见的部分原因,或许是因为成人比小孩更可能会尝试从字面上和视觉上将图象编码到记忆中。如果这个原因成立,那么它意味着成人更可能自己中断了“eideticimagery”的形成。因此,成人被鉴定为拥有“eidetic imagery”能力,这种可能性微乎其微,即便他们真的拥有这种能力。


Canyou acquire eidetic imagery through learning? Personally, I doubt it.To my knowledge, however, there have been no attempts to try to teachthe ability to anyone. Although it is clear that eidetic imageryexists, psychologists still do not know why it occurs, what brainmechanisms may be responsible, or why it is found in such a smallproportion of the population. It certainly is a fascinating phenomenon.
你能通过学习来获得“eideticimagery”吗?就个人而言,我对此表示怀疑。然而,据我所知,还没有人试图(做过实验)去尝试将这种能力教给任何人。尽管“eideticimagery”的存在很显然,但心理学家们仍然不知道它发生的缘由,(它是)什么大脑机制产生的,或者为何它在这么小比例的人口中被发现。这无疑是个引人入胜的现象。








以下是跟在文章后的回应中的一条:
Clipped at 08:31 AM on 11/29/08
Wow... I have always been able to see pages that I focus on long after - like years after. I can remember study pages from grade school, and I'm 31 years old. I can remember my friend's dad's credit card number that I memorized by staring at it when I was 12. I only got a 3.9 GPA, but didn't only use my memory - I was in a liberal arts college, so I had to write a ton of papers for my first degree. Memory doesn't help too much on that front.

I also remember what page quotes are on, and whether the quote is on the top, middle or bottom of the page. I also thought this was completely normal, and that everyone could do it until maybe 1 year ago, when my roommate started telling me that what I was doing was unusual.

I'm not sure it's directly related to the eidetic memory, but can you guys read and understand technical material that you have not studied or been taught?

I also use something like the same pattern of visualization to help me with understanding theoretical systems. I am able to hold complex and large theories in my 'mind's eye', and can manipulate them to identify flaws in assumptions, logical connections, etc. Do you find that you can generate these kind of 'conceptual images' as well?

Anyway, it's very cool to hear from other people who have this memory ability. As I said, I only recently realized that there was anything unusual about my memory, and Googled "eidetic" this morning before finding this article.






文章来自:http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=is-there-such-a-thing-as

作者介绍:Alan Searleman, a professor of psychology at St. Lawrence University and co-author of the college textbook Memory from a Broader Perspective, explains.

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个人站点:http://it.stlawu.edu/~asearleman
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只看该作者 1楼 发表于: 2009-01-31
还是啰嗦下,国外的管那些会照相记忆的叫eidetiker。
建议点击链接,阅读原文。
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只看该作者 2楼 发表于: 2009-03-27
这man的眼睛好性感...  
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只看该作者 3楼 发表于: 2009-03-28
照相高手貌似都是近视眼啊    

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看来对照片感兴趣的人还是多点啊,看看我签名里的那张二合一,他的名字你见到过的,具体你就去想吧,我不告诉你:P人家不只是一位照相高手哦.

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晕!!!!都是英文!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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某天您心情大增的时候,就没难度啰:)

我的地盘,我的天堂!!!!
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只看该作者 5楼 发表于: 2009-04-16
翻译:                                                                                                                                                                                                在科学文献中,术语本质图像最接近的是俗称的照相存储器。最常见的方式,以确定eidetikers (如人与本质形象往往被称为)是由图片启发式。在这份备忘录中,一个陌生的图片放在一个画架和一人仔细扫描整个现场。 30秒之后,已经过去了,图片是从认为,该人是要求继续寻找在架上,并报告任何东西,他们可以观察。人民拥有本质图像将满怀信心地宣称仍然“看”的图片。此外,他们还可以扫描,并审查不同的部分就像如果图片仍实际存在的。因此,一个典型的特征是,本质图像eidetikers使用目前的紧张时,回答有关失踪的图片,他们可以非常详细的报告,它载。

本质图像不同于其他形式的视觉图像在几个重要方面。首先,一个本质的形象不仅是一个长期后像,因为afterimages走动,当您移动你的眼睛,而且通常以不同的颜色比原来的形象。 (例如,一个闪光的相机可以产生afterimages :闪光的亮白色,但强烈的是一个黑色的斑点,并点来回移动你每次的眼睛。 )与此相反,一个真正的本质形象不会移动的你移动你的眼睛,这是在同一颜色作为原始图片。第二,一个共同的视觉形象,我们大家都可以从内存中创建(如图像的一间卧室)不具备的特点,最本质的图像,这几乎总是消失自愿和部分一部分。此外,就不可能控制哪一部分的本质形象褪色,仍然清晰可见。与通用的视觉图像创建的记忆,最本质上的图像之间的约50分钟只有几分钟,并有可能摧毁一个本质自愿形象永远的简单行为闪烁故意。此外,一旦已从认为,很少能够永远的本质形象检索。

您可能期望,谁的个人债权仍然看到图片后,它已被删除将能够有一个完美的记忆的原始图片。毕竟,一个完美的记忆就是通常所暗示的常用语“摄影记忆。 ”事实证明,但是,准确性许多本质图像远非完美。事实上,除了经常被粗略的一些细节,这是不寻常的eidetikers改变视觉细节,甚至发明了一些从来没有在原来的。这表明,本质图像当然不是摄影的性质,而是重建从内存,可以像其他记忆的影响(包括视觉和非可视)的认知偏见和期望。

绝大多数人谁已被确定为具有本质图像是儿童。估计流行的能力之间preadolescents范围从大约百分之二至百分之十。这是一个机会均等的现象-没有性别差异,谁可能是一个eidetiker 。虽然这无疑是有争议的,一些研究人员还认为,本质图像更频繁地出现在某些人口的弱智(具体地说,在个人的迟缓最有可能来自生物,而不是环境,原因) ,也包括老年人口。有一些明显的例外,但是,大多数研究表明,几乎没有成年人似乎具备这种能力,形成本质图像。

为什么会这样呢?没有人真正知道,虽然部分答案可能与一个相当模糊的事实的发展,例如图像。研究表明,如果一个人verbalizes期间,他或她是扫描原始图片,这干扰了本质形象的形成。这话语可能是因为看似无伤大雅的秘密说: “圣伯纳德”后,看到大狗在最初的扫描过程。
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只看该作者 6楼 发表于: 2009-04-16
裁剪在上午08时31分在11/29/08
哇...我一直能看到的网页,我着重于不久之后-就像年后。我还记得研究网页从小学,我31岁。我还记得我的朋友的爸爸的信用卡号码,我记忆的盯着它的时候12 。我只获得了3.9全球行动纲领,但他不仅用我的记忆-我是在文理学院,所以我不得不写了大量的文件,我的第一个学位。内存无助太多在这方面。

我还记得什么网页上的报价,以及是否报价是顶端,中间或底部的网页。我还认为这是完全正常的,人人可以做到这一点,直到也许一年前,当我的室友开始告诉我,我所做的一切是不寻常的。

我不知道这是直接关系到本质记忆,但你们可以阅读和理解的技术材料,你有没有研究或教?

我也使用同样的东西,如可视化模式,以帮助我理解理论体系。我能够举行复杂和庞大的理论在我的'心灵的眼睛' ,并可以操纵他们查明缺陷假设,逻辑连接,等你发现,你可以生成这些种'概念图像'呢?

无论如何,这是非常冷静地听到其他人谁本记忆能力。正如我所说,我只是在最近才意识到,有什么不寻常的关于我的记忆里,和Googled “本质”今天上午在找到这一条。

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我靠啊,都想到翻译,,,,,

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